First Up - The Podcast, Monday 30 June

On today's First Up pod: Elon Musk says Donald Trump's sprawling tax and spending cuts bill is UTTERLY INSANE - our correspondent Katherine Firkin has the details; the New Zealand Under 20s are just about to kick off their World Rugby Championship campaign in Italy and Nelson mayor Nick Smith tells us the region's reeling after intense rain over the weekend. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!